i did pick up it was john boehner next to the president and the president went out of his way to say we want a balanced approach. that means tax the rich. >> taxes go up, increasing revenue, which we already have no word on entitlement spending. no time like the present. the dollar now down 26. know in part on the from that. >> not raising taxes, and the second element of this which has not been part of the public conversation is cutting spending. we don't have a revenue problem, have a spending problem, no issue with cutting spending. stuart: i said taxes on the rich will go up. are you going to disagree with me? >> depends on what you mean of taxes going up. i don't think republicans are going for that, don't. stuart: whether they are forced into it? >> than we are going over the cliff. >> don't think republicans have sacrificed that sacred land. stuart: who turned full circle? >> i do, i think the president has drawn a line in the sand. i have two or three chess pieces on the board, i win. these are photo ops. stuart: that means nothing. utterly meaningless. you say we are going o